what do you prefer

[tdm-slo]

i have 3vd. i own it for about 4 mounths. i would like to find out wich fuel is better, 95 or 98.
i also bought delo motoroil in louis and now i'm not sure if delo 10-40 teilsint is OK.

thank you for your help and if you need any price info from slovenia just ask.

givi and kappa are much cheeper.

[ddiver]

Hi!

Welcome in the TDMF! :3

95 Oktan petrol is good enough for your TDM. Which year is your motorcycle build?
The oil is a great discussion in much threads, in this forum.
But your oil is also good enough. But do not mix the oil with an old one.
Stay by one product.


Oh, and one question! Can you complete your profil, or can we help to do this?

Regards
Rudi
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[tdm-slo]

thank you. i will update my profile now.

tdm was built in 95.
i saw a lot of threads about oil, but i don't speak very well deutsch so i gave up.

[ddiver]

Hello Vlado!

Thank you for updating your profil. It's fine to know your name!

Our forum is international. There are members from Italy, Belgium, Netherland, Greek and others. And now from Slovenia. That's absolute great.

The communication is mostly in german, right. But you can also ask or give us information in english.

I wish you a nice time!

Best regards
Rudi
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[gebesmh]

i do have an 4TX from 2000 and i always fill in 91 octane.... works very fine and is a little bit cheaper
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Herfried
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best moped ever had

[TDM-Leu]

Hi Vlado,

nice to read you, greetings to slovenia!

tdm-slo schrieb:
> i have 3vd. i own it for about 4 mounths. i would like to find out
> wich fuel is better, 95 or 98.
You can use the standard-quality described in the manual. The compression-ratio from the motor is not so high, that you must use a higher ROZ/MOZ-number (95/98/100 ROZ/MOZ).
The more is not bad, but it help´s nothing. Like gebesmh, 91 is ok!


> i also bought delo motoroil in louis and now i'm not sure if delo
> 10-40 teilsint is OK.
Yes, it seem´s to be OK, but don´t use synthetic-oil´s, because the clutch might wont´work after!

10-40 or 20-40 is OK!
And also, take care about: DON´T use oil (mostly for cars) that is labeled with "energy conserving" or something like that! You will get problems with the clutch, too!

Cheers:> Leu
Aus 14165 Berlin
www.Leutloff.de/
www.TDM-Group.de/
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4TX-'99, VRC7, Maßstab 1:18
TDMF#27

[DARKMAN]

hi slo

i also drive a 3VD and i'm using 91 octan fuel only in my machine! this fuel is more explosiv than the other ones and so there are not that lot of driving problems like jerking and so on.

10-40 oil is good for your 3VD but i use not the teilsint oil i use only mineral oil it's cheaper than the other one and as good as it.

greets
T.T.


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[tdm-slo]

Hi

In Slovenia we don't have 91 roz gas. So i use 95 ROZ. I found out, that engin is very thirsty, around 7,5l per 100 km. Is that normal? Do I need to check valves.

I bought oil in Louis. It's delo 10-40 semi synthetic. It is made by Delo for Louis. Is that oil OK? If i wiil have problems with clucth, i will use some other oil, motul, castrol..I don't like problems and who does.

Is the clucth problem connected whit only whit synt oil.

Thank you, Vlado

[DARKMAN]

hi vlado

i think you have a little problem with your caburets and the nedels in there also the nozzles can be decline and so the engine will be very thirsty. check the position of the nedels an look after the holes in the nozzels if there are round or oval!!!!!

you can take the oli without any problems i think, but sometimes the problem with the clucth happen and than it's better to change!

:rotate:
T.T.


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[Hanno]

Hi Torsten,

DARKMAN schrieb:
> you can take the oli without any problems

forget it. Oli (OliS) is one of our admin colleagues and we need 'em right here.
:teufel: ;D

LG
Hanno
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[ddiver]

Hanno schrieb:
> forget it. Oli
> (OliS) is one of
> our admin colleagues and we need 'em right here.
> :teufel: ;D

But we can lend you our chief mechanic from the Odenwald (a forest in middle germany), Mr. Darkman! ) )

I think, he would be happy about a short holiday trip. :p

Bye, I have to hide me in the alps! ;D

Rudi

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[Lars]

Hi Vlado,

tdm-slo schrieb:
> I found out,
> that engin is very thirsty, around 7,5l per 100 km. Is that normal?

The TDM850 carburators are known to wear out between emulsion tubes and needles. The needles rub the hole over time from round to oval (even if it can't be seen, yet. Typically it is best to replace the tubes. If you replace the needles, be sure to get aluminium ones and not steel. Steel would accelerate the wear of the tubes. In Germany a good source for those parts is the importer for Mikuni, the carburator company: www.mikuni-topham.de

Typically he is much cheaper than buying the parts from Yamaha.

> I bought oil in Louis. It's delo 10-40 semi synthetic. It is made by
> Delo for Louis. Is that oil OK?

I use the same: No problem since 20.000km!

> Is the clucth problem connected whit only whit synt oil.

It is usually connected with special oil additives. Experience seems to show that synthetic oil is "enhanced" more often with additives than "cheap" one. Many people run synth oil without problems, but some do have slipping clutches. It is up to you...

Best regards,
Lars

[tdm-slo]

hi again

i have only 36k km. is it possibile that i have problems whit tubes and needles.

[DARKMAN]

hi again vlado

how many are 36k km ??? 36000 km ?? maybe you can have that problem with your TDM, another problem is the position of the needles in the carburators!

:rolleyes:
T.T.


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[tdm-slo]

36k km is 36000 km.

Is it too much 7,5l per 100km or is that normal. Easy driving. Two on bike.

[Saubraten]

tdm-slo schrieb:
> hi again
>
> i have only 36k km. is it possibile that i have problems whit tubes
> and needles.

Hi Vlado,
normally no. The problem occurs after 50k-70k km.
By experience it's possible to increase gas consumption up to 9 ltrs with an engaged driving style only.
Do you agree? ;D

regards
Wolf-Dieter

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4Cfix Braujahr 97 0,044 Gm shocking yellow

[tdm-slo]

Hi Wolf

I'm an easy going rider. I have TDM for 2500 km. And consumption was allways beetwen 7,2-7,5l.
i don't know what is like the sound of health tdm engine, so i can't compare it with the sound of my tdm. i don't feel any other symptoms. i will thake it to garage.

but it is nice to know what can i expect. and gays in garage don't play a fair play.

[Saubraten]

tdm-slo schrieb:
> Hi Wolf
>
> I'm an easy going rider. I have TDM for 2500 km. And consumption was
> allways beetwen 7,2-7,5l.

O.K. something goes wrong. My TDM (built in 97) runs 46k km without problems. The average consumption is between 5-6 ltr.

regards
Wolf-Dieter

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4Cfix Braujahr 97 0,044 Gm shocking yellow

[tdm-slo]

hi

i'm quit a big guy (195). could that be a reason.

[Lars]

Hi again,

tdm-slo schrieb:
> 36k km is 36000 km.
>
> Is it too much 7,5l per 100km or is that normal. Easy driving. Two on
> bike.

1. 3VD and early 4TX models are known to run very rich carburator settings by factory. So if you do not have any other problems (bad acceleration at low rpm, rough handling between accelerating and decelerating) maybe just set the carbs a bit leaner (putting the needles one slot down) is the right thing for you. If you have not done this before, get someone to assist you.

2. If you DO have additional problems as mentioned above. The tubes could be worn already. According to other reports this can start to show up at 30-50Mm (k km), so your TDM could show those symtoms already...

Hope this helps.

Ciaole,
Lars

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GUS#42 TDMF#8

[Schumi]

tdm-slo schrieb:
> hi

Hi vlado!

> i'm quit a big guy (195). could that be a reason.

Nope. I´m about your size (okay, 1 cm taller ), and the consumption of my `95 3VD is at 5,5 - 6 litres on average. But as 'Saubraten' wrote: "engaged" driving helps to raise consumption... ;D like trying to follow other members of TDMF on mountain-roads, esp. Paul, BuXX or Lars ;D )

I guess - like most other postings in this thread - that your needles (or better: those in the carbs of your TDM ) are at standard "factory-level", and that the fuel-air-ratio is rather rich. Try Lars´s advice, I guess hanging the needles one notch lower (which means, you have to put the clip one notch up ) will most probably solve the problem.

And while already went all the way to get to the carbs, check the tubes. Getting there takes quite some time...

hth,
otherwise: feel free to ask.

Bye,
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TDMF#32
der-mit-dem-ohne-"a"
3VD`95 'Patti', VDVC1

[Saubraten]

tdm-slo schrieb:

> i don't know what is like the sound of health tdm engine, so i can't
> compare it with the sound of my tdm. i don't feel any other symptoms.

The sound of your TDM is no indication for problems with needles.
At ex.:
Mount a XXXXX exaust and it sounds like ill, mount a "Laser" exhaust and you will hear a healthy deep tone sound without any changes at carb needles.


regards
Wolf-Dieter

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[DARKMAN]

@Wolf-Dieter

vlado drives a 3VD not a 4TX so you can mount any exhaust u want there will not be a big difference between the sound of the original and the other!!!


you know 270° degrees????


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
T.T.


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[Saubraten]

DARKMAN schrieb:
> @Wolf-Dieter
>
> vlado drives a 3VD not a 4TX so you can mount any exhaust u want
> there will not be a big difference between the sound of the original
> and the other!!!
>
>
> you know 270° degrees????

Yes I know, of course.
But have you ever heard the difference between a Laser and original exaust?
This didn't depend on model.

bye
Wolf-Dieter


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[DARKMAN]

>
> Yes I know, of course.
> But have you ever heard the difference between a Laser and original
> exaust?
> This didn't depend on model. :D
>
> bye
> Wolf-Dieter
>
>

Wolf -Dieter all the exhausts i've heard on 3VD's have not so a big diffrence to the original one! the sound is a little bit deeper that's mostly all!

And it depend on the model you can see it at the MT04 between Daywalkers and my TDM both with the same exhaust system (MARVING)


T.T.


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